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Moths of New Brunswick

A group all about the moths of New Brunswick, and also the Maritimes. The variety of these night-flying (and sometimes day-flying) creatures is astounding, so post your images here and we'll get something going.

Location: Fredericton, NB
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A few moths from Cormierville, Kent Co., 3rd week of May 2017

Started by Stuart Tingley. Last reply by Joanne Savage 4 hours ago. 1 Reply

I've had very few moths at the lights so far this spring but weather has generally been poor for mothing. Hopefully things will turn around soon. Here are a few of the visitors to our outdoors lights…Continue

Tags: cormierville, cocagne, 2905, 089975, barbara

Oak leaftier Moth - needs id

Started by Chris Adam 9 hours ago. 0 Replies

This larva was found in tied/webbed oak leaved on 14 September 2016. It overwintered in a jar and emerged sometime in mid-May 2017; it was dead when I found it. I'm fairly sure it is a Pyralid.…Continue

Tags: pyralidae, leaftier, oak, red

5608 Double-humped Pococera Moth?

Started by Chris Adam 9 hours ago. 0 Replies

This might be PYRALIDAE Epipaschiinae: Pococera expandens - 5608 Double-humped Pococera Moth, but I am not entirely positive. It is also called Striped Oakworm Moth.I encountered the dark brown…Continue

Tags: Striped, oakworm, Moth, Double-humped, 5608

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Comment by Joanne Savage on September 20, 2015 at 8:44pm

I am certain that Don would prefer for Moths to go to you and get them already pinned. The impression I got was that  Museum staff would pin them.

Next query is: do they have to be rare? Your example showed the Celery Leaftier. At present I have a Sensitive Fern Borer and a Gold-striped Leaftier. Do you want either or only rare Moths?

Comment by Nancy Mullin on September 20, 2015 at 6:31pm

I just looked at Tom Murray's page last night and saw the page for Moths he couldn't ID...I wondered what he did with them.

The trick for a beginner, would be knowing which ones are rare.  Most of my micros I shoot on the wall or ceiling, I don't often cool them down....only if they are in a tough area.  I suppose I could shoot them and then keep them cool, till I made the ID. 

Comment by Tony on September 20, 2015 at 5:54pm
No need to store moths frozen. Once dead they can be stored dry. Any type of small, or large, container will suffice.
The 'trick' is to make sure they are dry before placing them in a sealed contained. Micros will dry out at room temp in about 4 days; larger macros may take 10 days. if stored when not dry the ever-present fungus will totally destroy them.
They can also be stored frozen and then they don't need to be dried.
I will be delivering about 2,000 pinned moths to the NBM later this year, it might be simplest for me to pick up any moths you have from Don at the NBM.
However, as Don suggested you save moths for him (the NBM) it would be prudent to ask him if he has any objections of them going to me first.
Incidentally, if you have a look at Tom Murray's moth pages at PBase you will see a page "to be identified". Tom sends these to me via USPS, each moth in own little plastic centrifuge tube (the 1.5 mL size).
Comment by Joanne Savage on September 20, 2015 at 5:25pm

Tony, how do we send them? If I freeze a 'one of Moth' I can freeze in a container, put in an envelope with info.. species, where, when and who. I can transport to NB Museum in the frozen state but  that wouldn't work with mailing to you... do you have a plan as to how we can get specimens to you?

Comment by Chris Adam on September 20, 2015 at 2:23pm

I can also offer moth occurrence evidence from another direction: galls, mines, leaf ties, leaf rolls, etc., some of which are caused by moths and some of which contain live larvae. (See the Bucculatrix leaf skeletonizer images that I posted recently.) I spend most of my time looking for and photographing such occurrences, and I spent quite a bit of time over the winter submitting images to Charley Eisemann at BG for opinion (he's writing a book on leaf mines). I hardly ever photograph at night anymore.

Comment by Tony on September 20, 2015 at 1:30pm

Stuart Tingley wrote in an earlier post
"It reinforces the importance of our assembling a good collection of moth images from this region. Let's just keep posting them, even when we aren't sure what they are, as some day they may be useful to somebody studying geographic variation in many of these species!"

To take this one step further I propose adding genitalia preparations for the images. This will make the identifications, and the science, much more rigorous.
The emphasis should be on the micros as these are so poorly known; also worth doing for our rarer, especially new to NB, macros.
I am willing to do the preparations.
Although I do get quite a few species it is obvious that Joanne, Nancy, and Stuart get more and different species than I get in Fredericton.

Such a project does mean that after the moth is photographed it has to be collected, saved, and finally sent to me for dissection. This may be a deal breaker.

Here is an example of the type of 'end product', (can be enlarged)

Comment by Nancy Mullin on August 29, 2015 at 12:51pm

Thank-you for sharing the links to the two ladies, Tony.  Lynn actually explains how she reached each ID and documents everything!!  Nolie's photo's are unbelievable...I would say she is a professional photographer!! 

Very impressive!! 

Comment by Tony on August 28, 2015 at 10:38pm

Canadian Moth-ers:

1- The ladies

I know of 2 experienced ladies, both in Ontario; and 2 others in NB that are on their way:

Ontario- Lynn Scott, http://acleris.com/dls/tn-mothindex.html

Nolie Schneider, http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/NSIndex.shtml

Comment by Tony on August 10, 2015 at 4:38pm

These pages list all the moths found in the Maritimes, listed by province as documented by the Canadian national Collection (CNC) in Ottawa.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=c2n7FPi3Lu0C&pg=PA490&lpg=...

Comment by Deb M on August 5, 2015 at 1:43pm

Thanks!! :D

 

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